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Ronald Bernard of the B of Joy on Child Sacrifices and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

A series of interviews has been making the rounds on conspiracy websites in which Dutchman Ronald Bernard talks about a sinister elite of about 8000 Luciferians who rule our world. According to Bernard, he was involved in all kind of financial services for this elite. He crashed emotionally and physically when he was invited to participate in child sacrifices, which take part during their satanic ceremonies.

Nowadays, Bernard is trying to make the world a better place, for instance with his B of Joy, a grassroots initiative which aims to be “a full reserve, interest-free, community bank”, “based on good stewardship of all life.” Bernard also encourages his listeners, however, to read the infamous and antisemitic Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which he apparently sees as a blueprint that is getting implemented in our lifetime.

“Dutch Illuminati Banker blows the Whistle”

Three parts (out of five) have been published online at this moment. They are made by Irma Schiffers, who last year co-founded Dutch website, Coöperatie De Vrije Media, which brings the usual conspiracy theories and anti-vaccine propaganda. Only the first part was published on that website, as she recently decided to go her own way.

You can have a look at his bizarre story yourself, but don’t expect any proof as he delivers nothing as such, we are expected to believe him prima facie. The most bizarre statements are in part 1, at about 22:50 the insane story on the Luciferians starts, and at about 29:15 you can here him on the Protocols.

Image via ‘Geheugen van Nederland

Is Bernard an antisemite or ‘just’ a crank?

Fellow skeptic Frank Verhoft from Belgium visited one of Bernard’s presentations in June this year and wrote on about it on his weblog. Verhoft noticed that Bernard used an image of the cover of a Dutch translation of the Protocols. In his presentation, Bernard had cut off the top of the cover which made it a bit of a search to find where he got it from. Verhoft found out that is was published in a series by De Misthoorn, according to Wikipedia “probably the most aggressive antisemitic magazine ever published in the Netherlands.”

lecture from 2016 also contains elements which you could consider antisemitic. Bernard mentions the ‘Waterloo legend’, about the Jewish banking family Rothschild. And at 29:35 he shows a cartoon, which has its roots in extreme right circles. It’s a slightly altered version of a clearly antisemitic cartoon which caused some controversy when the leader of the Austrian far-right party FPÖ shared it on Facebook.

Though this lecture and the interview are laden with conspiracy theories and naive critique on the current banking system, I didn’t find explicit antisemitic remarks. But telling your listeners to take the Protocols seriously without pointing out its dark origins is pretty dubious. Also on Facebook Bernard points his followers to a YouTube video on the Protocols which does not mention they have been proved to be an antisemitic hoax.

Verhoft and I were quite surprised that mainstream media had not yet asked questions. On the contrary, in January this year, Bernard was interviewed by De Volkskrant (one of the main newspapers in the Netherlands) and nothing of all this was mentioned. (Fun fact: this interview was a reason for infamous conspiracy website Infowars to take Bernard seriously.)
A quick look on Bernard Social Media accounts would have learned that he is deep into all kind of conspiracies, from chemtrails, anti-vaccination myths, to believing that climate change is a hoax. Websites like and GozoGreenCoop are registered in his name (under his alias Ronald Blij).

Many of the people involved in the B of Joy (or ‘De Blije B’, as is the Dutch name) are easily found spreading the most ridiculous crank ideas as well. Which made me wonder why there were also a couple of people on the advisory board, who you would not likely associate which such ideas.

Academics leaving the International Advisory Board of B of Joy

Before publishing my article (on Kloptdatwel) on Bernard’s interview and the research I did on his background, and that of other people involved, I contacted the two people in the International Advisory Board, who hold academic positions: Jan Rotmans (professor in transitions and transition management at the Erasmus University Rotterdam) and Marleen Janssen Groesbeek (lector Sustainable Finance and Accounting at Avans University of Applied Sciences). Me and Verhoft had repeatedly asked them questions on this matter via Twitter, but they seemed to ignore us (although they did notice our remarks).

In reply to my email, they let me know (clearly annoyed by my questions) that they didn’t believe anything of the stories told by Bernard. But apparently, it didn’t seem to bother them too much as they both continued to support the B of Joy.
After the publication of my article, however, other journalists got interested as well.  And only now Rotmans and Janssen Groesbeek decided to step down. De Volkskrant (the same newspaper that had published the uncritical interview with Bernard in January this year) wrote about the matter on Saturday, August 26th 2017 and apparently, this attention made them take the wise decision to cut ties with the B of Joy and Bernard in the end.

Fake news on the death of Bernard

The third part of the interview was released August 22nd, just a couple of days after I published my article on Kloptdatwel. In this part, Bernard responds to some critical remarks (from other conspiracy websites) on the previously released videos. Mainly on the fact that he didn’t show any proof whatsoever that he was indeed involved in financial operations during 1982-1994. The people who dare question his story because of the lack of proof or a curriculum vitae are just “hufters” (=bastards) according to Bernard. He also adds more incredible stories, about illegal (child) organ trade, in which Dutch nurses would have been involved in the late ’70s.

On August 24th fake news website Newspunch brought this story: Ronald Bernard, Dutch Banker Who Exposed Illuminati, Found Dead, in which the author states that this ‘former Illuminati banker’ had been found dead in Florida. Although in the comments under this article it was quickly pointed out that this dead man had the name Ronald Bernard Fernandez (Ronald and Bernard being his first names) and that this is a completely different person who was found dead in July, this story makes the rounds these days on many conspiracy sites and is bound to become a classic (“Illuminati banker found dead after blowing the whistle on child sacrifices”).

14 thoughts on “Ronald Bernard of the B of Joy on Child Sacrifices and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

  1. Why are people more concerned with whether a minority, the Jews, are being said to have a conspiracy – than whether it’s true? The false dichotomies presented, to get around the real issues, such as essentially “Is he crazy or just an anti-Semite?” Do you still beat your wife? I’d like an honest assay of this man’s story, not a hyper-focusing on whether or not he holds a deep-seated distrust of Jews. Nobody, and certainly, no group, is above being labeled as vile and immoral. It’s rather preposterous that we, non-Jews, should accept and take for granted that Jews, in fact, should be trusted, and are moral and ethical people.

    1. It’s rather preposterous that we, non-Jews, should accept and take for granted that Jews, in fact, should be trusted, and are moral and ethical people.

      Pointing out false accusation against a (ethnic) minority as racism, or more specfic anti-semitism, has very little to do with stating that people belonging to these groups should be trusted a priori more than any other person.

  2. The Protocols of The Elders of Zion are a forgery based on true information, which is why it convinced a lot of influential people such as Hitler and Henry Ford. They were distributed to make it look as if zionist jews were in control of secret societies (such as freemasonry) while it was the other way around. The original text (Dialogues aux enfers entre Montesquieu et Machiavel) on which the protocols are based was written by a freemason who disguised it as a satire.

    Bernard never mentions jews in the videos, but “Luciferians” who are in fact at the top of interconnected secret societies who practice human sacrifice. Obviously, jews don’t do that. The anti-semitic label is used to silence critics because we know all about the horrors of the Holocaust.

    1. If you are so sure that Bernard is right, I guess you can name some of these Luciferians who are at the top?

  3. We, in Italy, had such a controversy case about a girl who was found read without the blood in his body (1 month after his disappearing), and despite that the authorities are looking for a “normal” murder case (with a scapegoat) without mentioning, never mention, the possibility of a sacrifice.
    Means that this kind of things are existing and are strictly protected, and that is very important to specify and make it clear are not conspiracies but facts.
    Now the question about this case; is this Ronald Bernatd an actor or is not?
    Do change so much?
    We know for sure the bankers acting improperly, and we know that the Italian Lira speculation (something he talking about) was done (Soros Know something about that), then even if he is an actor he is speaking about cold facts, real happenings and we do know that are people who are had enough to provoke a war just for interests, so again do we really need to make questions about conspiracy for this case?

    You may say something about conspiracy if someone claim wasn’t a natural incident what happened in Sweden the 29th Sept., that by chance is coincident with 11/9. But in this case we don’t even need to look about his credibility but instead to verify how many cases are existing like the facts he has exposed.

    1. As Bernard has shown nothing about the experiences he tells about, which can be verified using independent sources, I think it is best to discard it as a fantasy.

  4. Ronald Bernard is just another person pointing out what is really going on in the world. It does not matter whether one believes it or not. Ultimately the reality of the matter takes its own course and affect everybody, directly or indirectly.
    In order to understand the scale of the problem or even whether it’s true, looking in isolation is self defeating. How can you notice a pattern of the carpet having your head buried in it. Fact is Ronald does not provide any evidence rather talks the evidence is out there. So the issue is not whether his story is true based only on his statement but rather whether there is any indication on what’s really going on?

    [I (PvE) deleted the rest of this comment, because it was standard conspiracy stuff which doesn’t add anything usefull]

  5. Thank you for an interesting overview of the man. Personally I am wary of the use of the term “conspiracy theories” because such terminology is loaded with negative implications that immediately serve to ridicule or lessen the possibility of the issue being true. The authorities/establishment/systems are those who decide what is “conspiracy” and what isn’t, regardless of the plausibility of the theory put forward. It is a very clever way to side-step issues and gain the support of a misinformed public.

    For instance, labeling concerns about vaccines as “conspiracy theories” does nothing to propose an open, intelligent, scientific debate backed by reliable independent data on the subject – which we are not allowed to have – and anybody who questions the official line is labeled a “conspiracy theorist”. The same with so-called climate change or global warming. People find themselves be polarized as either “for” the official line or “against”, with the latter being ridiculed by mainstream media which is clearly owned by individuals and corporations who do not promote freedom of press, nor speech nor even thought.

    What is interesting about Blij’s version is that it does fit various patterns that many already have about the “elite” (the cabal, illuminati, Bilderbergers or whatever…). For anybody who does some work at understanding how the world works will clearly see that money and power are behind most global matters of importance and that everything keeps leading back to a select few groups. Follow the money is an apt method to apply.

    Blij’s talk about Luciferians and sacrificial rituals are strange to say the least. But so are the theories behind quantum physics and lay people don’t dare to question those, as they cannot really not knowing anything about such a science. Equally, people who have not learned about or been involved in the things Blij talks about cannot know anything about those either. Most people simply repeat what they have been conditioned to repeat by the media and similar sources. And those sources are not always, maybe not even often, correct. They lie, mislead and misinform about so many things. E.g. the wars in the Middle East. There were no WMD and the media did not report about the 1/2million Iraqi infants who died as a direct result of US/UK sanctions which Albright (US Secrerary of State) said “was worth it”! There are numerous other examples of misinformation by the media in politics, the environment, health, etc.

    Not all alternative views are correct and some are very strange. e.g. David Icke’s reptiles, and because of that he is ridiculed about so many other things which are clearly quite accurate.

    So… unless we already know, with firm evidence, I do think we should learn to keep our minds open to the possibility that something might be correct, instead of closing our minds and eliminating that possibility forever.

    I find most of Blij’s comments quite likely to be true or at least very close to the truth. And that is something that alerts me and encourages me to ask more questions and look further. I cannot change the world but I can learn to live in a way which is more positive in an effort to balance at least a few of the negative things out there.

    As Edmund Burke said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” (Women too!)

  6. Zeer vreemd verhaal van deze authentiek verteller, een bekend bankier, blijkt bij nader onderzoek inderdaad geloofwaardig. Prof. Tom Philpott onderzocht het fenomeen al in 1981 ( Dat het gemoemde inktzwarte boek een duistere geschiedenis heeft (omdat het een ongeauthoriseerde copie is en ook door antisemiten is opgemerkt etc.) doet niets af aan de inhoud (19de eeuws) die 1:1 blijkt te kloppen met de werkelijkheid die zich in de 20ste eeuw heeft ontvouwd. Het is dus geen fantasie. Zo’n uitzonderlijke kwaliteit kan niet onopgemerkt blijven. Het lijkt een relefex te worden om iedereen maar te veroordelen die de waarheid meer eeer aandoet dan de politiek correctheid.

  7. It’s funny in the west Palm Beach news paper l believe reported his death with the name you mentioned.
    I like the conspiracy theory comments that you point out and the the obvious fact that the protocols of zion are truly being follow like a road map, is that the big question for you to answer

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