Debunking Fall Cabal by Janet Ossebaard – Part 1

A Dutch woman called Janet Ossebaard recently has quite some success – measured in views – with a 10 part video series on YouTube that propagates the far-right QAnon conspiracy theory. The series is called Fall Cabal, and you will have no trouble finding it on your own.

Debunks of other parts:
[2] [3] [4] [5] [6-10]
Ossebaard’s more recent video series on COVID-19 is debunked here.

According to Ossebaard a big change is about to happen, but most people don’t seem to have a clue. So therefore she is going to tell the hidden truth to us. She claims to have access to privileged knowledge because she knows the Great Plan that is unfolding before our eyes.

Janet Ossebaard, who calls herself a researcher, used to be mostly involved with crop circles, UFOs and extraterrestrials. She is also one of the staunch supporters of medium Robbert van den Broeke who has been caught cheating many times. (photo: screenshot Twitter)

Ossebaard usually just bombards the viewer with unsubstantiated claims, which you could of course answer with Hitchen’s Razor – “What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.” – but I’ll try to debunk those claims anyway.

The first episode of the series is titled: “The End of the World As We Know It – Things That Make You Go Hmmmm…” In the text before the title screen Ossebaard urges the viewer to accept nothing as the truth, asks to do your own research and to double-check everything she presents. So I did.

Below follows a list of the more or less factual claims Ossebaard makes in Part 1 of her video series. They are preceded by the timestamp for easy reference. Fellow Dutchman Harry Hol also made a decent debunk of this episode on his YouTube channel. You can find that video embedded at the end of this post.

Debunking the claims made by Ossebaard

02:23 Ossebaard claims: Fires forgot to burn trees, and they were able to cut through houses.
Ossenbaard hints at the conspiracy theories that were circulating around the huge wildfires in California in 2018. In fact there is nothing extraordinary about what Ossebaard shows here. Metabunk has some good threads in which these claims are debunked: Explained: Unburned trees next to burned down structures as evidence of secret “energy weapons” and Explained: House “Cut in Half”, Tubbs Fire, Santa Rosa, Coffey Park.

A hollow tree burning from the inside

02:32 Ossebaard claims: The wildfires burn trees from the inside out.
This might seem strange, but it concerns hollow or partially rotten trees. If the outside of the tree is damp, the dry inside can easily burn faster, especially when filled with dry leaves and helped by a chimney effect.

02:40 Ossebaard claims: The wildfires were able to lift cars, tilt them and smash them down.
It is hard to tell from the picture what events could have led to it ending upside down. Many people tried to escape in vain from the fires by car. It is entirely possible that in the panic that arose, accidents happened that would turn over a car. Another possibility is that the car was swept aside by a bulldozer during the clean-up.

02:45 Ossebaard asks:Are you sure that these are ordinary forest fires?”
Ossebaard suggests otherwise and although she doesn’t explicitly mention what is happening according to her, it is most likely a hint to the bizarre conspiracy theory that these fires were started by Directed Energy Weapons fired from satellites.

02:55 Ossebaard claims: Mercury is considered highly toxic, but not when we inject it into children in absurd quantities.
Mercury as a metal is toxic but isn’t a compound in any vaccine. The chemical compound Thiomersal, which contains a mercury atom, was used in some childhood vaccines as a preservative, but that’s no longer the case. Thiomersal is not the same as the metal mercury, like ordinary salt is not the same as chlorine gas although salt contains a chlorine atom. It’s basic chemistry.

03:07 Ossebaard claims: No doubt you’ve heard about chemtrails. Long time denied by our governments, but recently acknowledged and referred to as geoengineering aerosols.
What Ossebaard shows are ordinary contrails. Geoengineering is a suggested, but highly controversial, solution to climate change. This could in theory be done by spraying sulphure compounds in the upper atmosphere. For this new aircraft will have to be designed as the existing ones which could be used for spraying, can’t reach those altitudes. In no way did governments acknowledge that the ordinary contrails you can observe frequently in our skies have anything to do with geoengineering experiments.

One of Herndon’s retracted articles.

03:24 Ossebaard claims: We are being sprayed with heavy metals.
Simply false. The contrails consist of water. The idea that they contain chemicals like Aluminium, Barium, Cadmium and Titanium (only the last two are considered to be heavy metals, by the way) is a fantasy from chemtrail believers and only substantiated by flawed research by Marvin Herndon who saw a couple of his articles retracted.

03:27 Ossebaard claims: These metals are stored in our brains, where they have been proven to cause Alzheimer’s and Parkinson’s disease.
Wrong. Although naturally occurring metals might play a role in the development or progression of Alzheimer’s disease there is no convincing evidence that for instance aluminium can be a cause.
For Parkinson’s disease, there are clues that particular metals could play a role, but these metals (manganese and lead) are not on Ossebaard’s list.

03:39 Ossebaard claims: In Holland (The Netherlands), if we don’t explicitly opt-out as organ donor “our organs will be the property of the state as soon as we are declared braindead.”
Wrong. Even if you didn’t make your wishes clear about organ donation, your relatives have the last say. Nothing is mentioned in the law about bodies being the property of the state, that’s an absurd idea.

03:48 Ossebaard claims: The last time it was arranged this way by law was during the nazi occupation.
No source is given, but it is highly unlikely that this was the case as during that period (1940-1945) organ transplantation was only in an experimental stage. It would still take many years before physicians tackled the problem of transplant rejection. Setting up a system for organ transplantation during the nazi era therefore wouldn’t have made sense.
This claim is most likely made to suggest that organ transplantation is an evil thing and could be seen in the light of other nazi activities, like their medical experiments in concentration camps.

03:57 Ossebaard claims: The current pope is the first to state that hell doesn’t exist, but the devil does.
The story of the pope denying the existence of hell went viral in 2018. It was based on remarks by Eugenio Scalfari, a 93-year-old former editor of La Repubblica and friend of Francis who is known to bring sensational stories about their conversations. The Vatican issued a statement indicating that none of the quotes ascribed to Francis can be considered faithful transcriptions.

04:06 Ossebaard claims: The Vatican’s audience hall is full of references to reptilians.
Like Ossebaard has never heard of pareidolia… For the intended symbolism of the sculpture, I refer to the Wikipedia article, no reptilians are mentioned there, so Ossebaard simply misrepresents the artist’s intention.

04:20 Ossebaard claims: The Vatican’s telescope is called Lucifer.
False. The Large Binocular Telescope, part of Mount Graham International Observatory,  has an instrument that used to be called LUCIFER, but that name was changed to LUCI. The Vatican Observatory co-operates another telescope on the same mountain (The Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope).

04:25 Ossebaard claims: Popes make the sign of the devil.
Nope. The picture of Francis making the sign was taken during a visit to the Philippines, where this gesture means ‘I love you’ (probably the gesture was taken over from the American Sign Language).
The photo of Benedictus XVI turns out to be a photoshop job. In the original photo he doesn’t make the sign.

Original image on top, altered image below.

04:39 Ossebaard states: On 9/11 two planes managed to cut through steel.
No explicit claim here, just the suggestion that this would be impossible. The idea that the planes couldn’t have damaged the Twin Towers as we all saw, usually indicates a lack of understanding of the physics involved and underestimating the kinetic energy of the planes.

04:44 Ossebaard claims: A third plane mysteriously disappeared in a building. And number four plunged into the earth without leaving any debris or bodies.
There is nothing mysterious about the crash of AA77 into the Pentagon, which was well investigated (ASCE report).
The crash site at Shanksville, where UA93 came down, was also investigated thoroughly and most of the plane was recovered from the site. Also remains of all crew members and passengers were identified from DNA. The Wikipedia article is pretty good and complete on this matter.

04:52 Ossebaard claims: The planes were piloted by terrorists that only had had a few flying lessons in a small Cessna.
Completely false. Some of them had quite some training and practised in flight simulators. All this is well described in the 9/11 Commission Report.

05:11 Ossebaard claims: The same victims can survive up to three different attacks.
Mason Wells is shown. He was badly injured during the terrorist attack on Brussels airport in 2016. He witnessed the Boston Marathon attack in 2013 from a block away, and during the attacks in Paris, he was in France. In my opinion, it’s a bit exaggerated to say he survived three terrorist attacks.

The story of the Australian woman is even less impressive. Maybe these persons see themselves as victims of three separate attacks, but a serious researcher would definitely nuance that claim as merely a presence in the vicinity of such attacks doesn’t make one a victim.

5:25 Ossebaard claims: Rome Shubert suffers a headshot but only needs a band-aid.
“A bullet sliced clean through the back of the Santa Fe High School sophomore’s head” according to CNN. It just happens occasionally that a bullet only hits soft tissue and no vital structures.

5:33 Ossebaard claims: One of the victims is actually a cloth doll.
Without any evidence, a victim of the Barcelona terrorist attack in 2017 is assumed to be a cloth doll. Seriously? An insane claim, 16 people were actually killed.

5:44 Ossebaard claims: Several images of animated movies contain hidden (sexual) images.
Some of these might just be pareidolia, some might be intentional jokes by the animators. You can find many websites that collect such naughty hidden secrets.
The swastika on the skin of the mother dog in the 101 Dalmatians, however, is a vile hoax, it’s just not there in that scene.

On the left the photoshopped version, on the right an original screenshot from the same scene.

6:00 Ossebaard claims: Fully grown fetuses can be legally aborted in many American States.
We just have to guess what information Ossebaard bases this claim on. It could be that she confuses ‘fully grown’ with ‘viable’. There are some states that allow abortion up to 24 weeks, and there are some examples of babies that were born a little earlier (22 weeks) and lived.

6:08 Ossebaard claims: Advocates of full-term abortion state that unborn babies can not feel pain.
No idea which ‘advocates’ Ossebaard has in mind here. I don’t know any. At best she is confused again and mixes up full-term and late-term.

6:22 Ossebaard asks: “Is abortion of a fully grown baby not the same as murder?”
But in which state is infanticide legal? Ossebaard is inventing stuff to get her message across. It is quite likely that Ossebaard picked up this theme from Donald Trump as he made ludicrous remarks about abortion; he suggested that some abortions are performed after a baby is born (which would be infanticide).

6:38 Ossebaard claims: The migrant caravan travelled for 2000 miles and took just one and a half month.
Ossebaard is a bit vague about which caravan she is talking about (there have been several of those in recent years), but as she mentions the midterm elections it must be the one around October 2018. She uses, however, also images from a caravan in 2017 which was about a completely different issue and wasn’t bound for the United States border.
Somehow Ossebaard thinks these migrants are thought to have walked the whole way, but I could not find anyone claiming that they had done so. So it remains a question what exactly makes Ossebaard go ‘hmmm…’ here.

Ossebaard includes this photo in her video, but it is from an entirely different ‘caravan’ in 2017.

7:12 Ossebaard claims: Hollywood stars promote facial creams that contain foreskins of baby boys.
Actually, the cream contains epidermal growth factors derived from stem cells taken from the discarded foreskins of newborn babies in Korea which are then cloned.
Celebrities do all kinds of weird stuff, but it takes some evil fancy to suggest that the next thing for them might be drinking baby blood. (Which is of course exactly what Ossebaard later in the series does when she starts to talk about Satanists.)

7:38 Ossebaard claims: Diseases such as aids, zika, sars and ebola are patented and therefore man-made.
Highly misleading. Some of the patents are for genetic variants of the viruses that cause the disease and that might be used for vaccine development, some are for the virus itself but are patented by governmental organisations (like CDC) to make sure that the information stays available in the public domain. See this article from for more background.

8:00 Ossebaard claims: Spyware in electronic devices works 24/7 even when the device is switched off.
Of course, this is not possible unless a device is set on stand-by and not switched off completely. For the claim that every conversation is recorded, Ossebaard provides no evidence at all.

8:24 Ossebaard claims: Now that Bayer has bought Monsanto our food supply is largely controlled by producers of carcinogenic poison.
The only product specifically mentioned as toxic is RoundUp. Although that substance is under a lot of criticism and there are concerns about its safety, there is no clear evidence that it poses a risk to humans if used appropriately. And of course, the sweeping condemnation of the pharmaceutical industry is preposterous. It’s not the product they sell that is scandalous, it is their greed to make money from their products. If they were really poisonous, nobody would want to buy them (or would die very soon after purchasing the product if there is any truth to her claim).

8:47 Ossebaard claims: Monsanto started producing Agent Orange.
Agent Orange was developed by US and Great-Brittain. GB used the compounds first for military purposes during the Malayan Emergency. During the Vietnam war, the US bought Agent Orange from a dozen companies. Monsanto was the second largest producer after Dow Chemical.

9:20 Ossebaard claims: Hillary Clinton deleted 33.000 emails from a private server that she used as Secretary of State. Furthermore, she destroyed evidence stored on electronic devices.
A large investigation has been done by the FBI into the issue of this private server. In the end (2016) they didn’t find enough reason to press charges. For the claim that she smashed her phones with a hammer, see Snopes.
The fire mentioned was actually just a small fire in a building used by the Secret Service. This happened in 2018, so quite sometime after the FBI decided not to prosecute.

9:55 Ossebaard claims: President Obama received the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009 when he was just nine months in office.
This is a fact. The Nobel Committee awarded Obama for his “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between people” citing Obama’s promotion of nuclear nonproliferation and a “new climate” in international relations. It was not an uncontroversial decision at the time, and it is not clear what Ossebaard is trying to imply here.

10:30 Ossebaard claims: These issues have in common that they were completely ignored by the mainstream media.
A ridiculous claim when you just think about the Hilary Clinton email controversy, the effects of Agent Orange, or the law on organ donation in The Netherlands which were heavily debated issues at the time. Also, Ossebaard regularly shows images from newspapers and tv channels to illustrate what she’s talking about.

12:35 Ossebaard claims: Seth Rich leaked info to Wikileaks.
The idea that Rich leaked emails to Wikileaks has been contradicted by the official research into his murder. It has also become clear that the emails were obtained by Russian intelligence groups via hacking. See for instance this factcheck from Politifacts.


In this first episode of the Fall Cabal series, Ossebaard makes lots of claims without providing her sources or giving any indication that she performed even the most basic fact-checks. No explanation is given, there is only the suggestion that the so-called official version can’t be true and that the mainstream media (MSM in code) is lying to the public and therefore can’t be relied upon for giving reliable information.

Many of the claims can be debunked without much effort. Ossebaard just reiterates claims she found on conspiracy websites. She is not actually putting forward an alternative explanation but instead tries to instil doubt in the viewers.

Thanks go out to Peter Zegers who provided useful suggestions and read my concept version.

Harry Hol’s debunk

As mentioned at the beginning of this post, there is also a debunk by Dutch journalist/writer/stand-up comedian Harry Hol. He touches almost the same topics as I do and he might have used quite a few of the same sources for fact-checking. Ossebaard did respond to his debunk on Twitter, but failed to give any substantial arguments.

I’m not sure whether Hol plans to debunk the rest of the series as well (he also did a video in Dutch on de covid-19 video series by Ossebaard). I’ll keep an eye open for that.

Next: debunk of Part 2

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69 thoughts to “Debunking Fall Cabal by Janet Ossebaard – Part 1”

  1. I am very late to this site and see the comments are around 2020. These videos are an onramp for many into the “Truther” world and the emotional manipulation that pulls people down a very dark path. I appreciate you taking the time to look at these allegations, challenge what is stated as matter-of-fact and provide alternative explanations.
    It is not simplicity or ignorance that marks these people. Though a lot of them seem to be simple and unknowledgeable, there are also a lot of generally intelligent people as well. Instead, it is what they choose to believe having been hooked emotionally. It is an alternate religion, pure and simple, and rational arguments do not seem reach them.

  2. your picture you had to debunk the 101 Dalmatians photoshop version is a remastered updated version in HD. I can tell you disney had a lot of adult content in his original works that i did not know as a child. Most of the Disney stuff was remastered to higher quality and they cleaned up and removed some content.

  3. Great work, Pepijn! Some of the people I know are QAnon adepts and it’s extremely difficult to reason with them. As soon as they are stuck in the web of Ossebaard or another guru they lose the ability to apply logic. It is like a religion of some sorts. I tried to explain a few basic scientific facts to them but to no avail. Usually the result is me getting blocked. Next time I just link this site as a last resort. Fear though they will never change. They will just lose their ‘religion’ when there’s other things to do, after corona. Like they don’t have time for it anymore.

  4. Wow I started watching this series and couldn’t believe how gullible some people are to believe this. The problem is they use too much symbolism instead of facts. And if the events of this don’t come to light they will end up recycling these stories for future world occurrences.

  5. Someone took the ‘green pill’…and perhaps greenbacks like a particular YouTube debunker who at least admits billionaires’ give him money to do the debunking.

    The only way to debunk the debunk is do honest research on your own, NOT using Google, Bing, Yahoo…but, Webcrawler, DuckDuckGo, and one or to other search engines…they take down stuff on the others because it’s the truth; not harmful to anyone…like me—a Flattard…I must look for taken down videos and other VISUAL, OBSERVABLE stuff through alternative resources.

    Just an interesting question to think about though— the TWIN TOWERS…if the planes smashed into them, and EXPLODED, what fuel was left burning to “melt the steal”, the same type of steal that some of the planes engines had in them? If the fuel burned as hot as they say, how is it we can fly in the first place?

    But, if you know your Church History—not the rewritten Jesuit version—then you will know much of what she is SHOWING is true. Time will tell.

    1. There is no ‘melting of steel’ as part of the explanation for the destruction of the Twin Towers in the official reports.

    1. It is still used in some vaccines, not in the ones given to children in the regular schedules.

  6. This blog is total fraud. He is deleting the comments debunking him. He is a brainwashed self supported believer. He does not know anything on being neutral and probably his money come from a big authority who promotes all the BS we see in media today.

    1. You’re just wrong. The only comments which do not pass moderation are the ones that do not comply with the message that is above the comment box. Also, I feel not sorry for deleting anonymous comments that just reiterate ‘arguments’ that have already been answered in the comments before. No use in replying again and again to pseudo arguments like ‘this is no proper debunk, because you link to Wikipedia and Snopes’, that’s just a waste of time.

  7. Can you Pepijn provide factual evidence to debunk her claims on main subject of Human trafficking? She names names.
    Ad hominem attacks are not the way to go are they? While some of her claims seem far fetched, there may well be some truth in what she states.
    I know an ex BBC producer who rang up the BBC after 9/11 and asked them why their reporter in USA was reporting the ”downing”/destruction of the 3rd building in New York some 27 mins. BEFORE it was destroyed. Someone in the BBC put the ‘phone down on him. He used to write in The Guardian-nobody was talking.

    1. Ossebaard doesn’t really deal with the subject of human trafficking in this part, or does she? May you could pose this question in the comments on the debunks where it is more to the point, and be specific with her statements (timestamp).

      Concerning the BBC reporter who erroneously called the destruction of WTC7 I suggest you watch the explanation given in the BBC-documentary The Third Tower which looks entirely reasonable to me.

  8. Vrij uitvoerige debunk, dank daarvoor. Maar het kan ook korter. Pak “Tussen Waarheid en Waanzin”, de encyclopedie der pseudowetenschappen van het nachtkastje (want daar hoort hij, ik heb hier de derde druk 1998). Neem dan de lemma’s Grote Samenzwering, Satanisch Ritueel Misbruik, en Rituele Moord en je hebt in 1 keer de hele cyclus val van de cabal én de debunk. Gewoon knippen en plakken dus. Eigenlijk denk ik zoals mevrouw Ossebaard dat ook heeft gedaan. Alvast daarom nu al een voorbeschouwing op het vervolg waar ze nu aan werkt: Graancirkels (weer een Lemma) zijn het werk van Q en wie zitten er achter al het kwaad? Het lemma Joodse Samenzwering heeft alle antwoorden…

    1. Helaas is er geen vertaling van “Tussen Waaheid en Waanzin”, dus beschouw deze debunk als een service aan onze medeburgers de de Nederlandse taal niet machtig zijn 😉

      1. Wat lees ik nu? ” Part 1 of the Sequel to Fall of the Cabal by Janet Ossebaard is just a mix of well known anti-semitic conspiracy theories (Khazar myth) …” Mijn conclusie: ik ben helderziend, maar bestaat dat wel? 😉

  9. Thank you for this, i’ve been doing the same research as you, and i came to the same conclusions. However, im really worried about this movements, some of my relatives are beliving in this and as much i try to prove that this is not factual, they don’t care.

    1. It is worrying, indeed. I just hope it doesn’t spread to too many people who are susceptible to this kind of extreme conspiracies.

      1. The one thing you say that I cannot understand is that you think that a actual plane hit the pentagon, that simply didn’t happen as we can all see the size of the alleged plane and the actual size of the hole the missile created. There is no possible way that plane folded into itself and made that small hole. What about the huge engines how is it possible for those to do no damage to either side of the small hole in the building?
        If 2 planes hit the world trade center why were the engine blocks never found? Engine blocks do not disintegrate.
        And how did the other building come down all on it’s own?
        If you can explain these questions then you will have some credibility. I’m not saying the fall of cabal is all true but some of it is obviously is. If your going to debunk then provide more explanations yourself.

        1. If you think the hole in the Pentagon was too small, you are probably looking at the wrong pictures, either those from the almost circular hole on the inside where the debris punched a hole in the inner wall of the C-Ring, or pictures from the facade of the Pentagon which don’t show the ground floor. Look up figures 3.8 and 3.9 from The Pentagon Building Performance Report by ASCE.

      2. Pepijn, I appreciate the work you’ve put into this.

        You have neglected to mention that she presents the various incidents as “things that make her go hm.” Subjective. They may not be ones that make you or me go hm… but surely we all have our own list.
        I would agree that she errs on the side of gullibility. However, so do you, when you say that QAnon is a “far right” movement. I refer you to a very good and well scouted article by The Atlantic that says otherwise.

        I think the message of this first installment of the Cabal is to say, wait a minute, they are lying to us, they are hiding things, and they are messing with our heads. Would you dare to contradict that message? 🙂

        In my view, not all examples were chosen well, but that’s a separate issue. She has probably moved on as well, we all learn as we go.

        I would like to only mention a couple of instances that reveal your own bias and imbalance, with due respect. Yes, it is true that many abortion proponents in the States make no bones about it, and announce it quite loudly on the interwebs: abortion till “it” draws breath! I have run into too many of them to believe that it is a minute group. They are vocal and will try to push the law thataway, indeed are already trying.

        As for the creepy sculpture in the Vatican, ugh. You say those of us who think it creepy are misinterpreting the artist’s intention. Yeah? I heard that said about the creepy murals in the new Denver airport. I think you will understand that some of us don’t buy that “explanation.” And how do you know what the artist’s intention was? Do you see into his or hers mind and heart? How do you know that creeping us out was NOT the artist’s intention?

        Pornographic imagery smuggled into cartoons for small children? You sweep it under the rug, some of us don’t.

        She is wrong about Lucifer because it got renamed Luci?! Cute. LOL

        Staged PhotoOps presented as real news? Please. Even if she did not choose all her examples with care, it happens all the time. Now going on in Belarus.

        What I found most disturbing in your rebuttal is the focus on who supplied the most of Agent Orange. You are right, but surely you do understand that is not the point. The main point of that segment is the viciously reckless use of a horribly destructive chemical by the US in Vietnam. I don’t think I will ever get those images of the horrifying state of the little human beings affected by that chemical off my retina. Yeah, that goes past a mere “hm,” wouldn’t you say?

        If they are willing to do THAT to people (not to mention other living beings in the jungle), what else are they willing to do to us?

        1. Quite a lot of commenters make the point that although they agree with most of the debunks we present here, that this does not invalidate the main message of Ossebaard. (BTW lots of those comments didn’t pass my moderation for several reasons like swearing and threats). We are here just debunking the arguments and ‘facts’ Ossebaard presents. Of course, you’re right that we don’t think her main message has any truth, but that is not because we are deliberately ignoring better evidence than Ossebaard shows.

          So, if you are accepting her message for reasons that are better than the ones she gives in her documentary, that’s up to you. And maybe you can explain it to her as well. Although that might be a tough job as she insists that there are no mistakes in it because she is too careful to make them.

  10. You really have the believers pissed off. Love how they always resort to name calling so mature.I enjoyed this very much thankyou.

  11. This has got to be one of the poorest attempts at “debunking” I’ve ever seen

    1. Thanks for this however,
      There are eight states that have no gestational limits on abortion: Alaska, Colorado, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, and Vermont, along with Washington, D.C.

  12. Oh Oh Pepijn, the way you are trying to debunk this story is exactly how Ossegaard proposes her story; with half-truths, unknown realities and misleading evidence. Let me get into some of the nonsense you are spewing. And watch out, maybe I am coming after you at all those ‘truthful’ debunk episode you made! Let’s debunk the debunker.

    About 9/11
    Everyone without a brain as small as a walnut and with decent gut-feeling knows that 9/11 was an inside job and a perfect way to start off the War On Terror, to invade Afghanistan and other Middle Eastern countries. Why Building 7 fell down without a plane ever hitting the building as if it was a controlled demolition, is because it was a controlled demolition! Why on earth it was possible that 20 minutes after the first plane hit one of the buildings, another plane was able to hit the second building without being intercepted by jet fighters, which can be in the air within the blink of an eye, is one complete mystery, except when it was an inside job. Meanwhile, when all this shit went down, president Bush was busy reading children’s books to preschoolers. It is laughable you are referring to the 9/11 Commission Report as if it is fortified with truth, while it is actually one of the biggest written lies about the most shameless way false flag in history. And yes, they have a history in attacking their own citizens. Operation Northwoods was another false flag attempt by the U.S. to justify intervening in the business of Cuba by means of terrorist attacks on their own citizens. Oh yeah, and they infected the population of Guatamala with Syphilis, people that had not even had sexual intercourse ever in their life. The U.S. government also admitted this, long after the fact.

    Full Grown Fetuses and legal abortion.
    This is actually very true in certain states, as in California. They are even allowing freaking post-birth abortions. Yes, POST BIRTH! You can look it all up. In this video the governer of California speaks it about it. It is horrifying.

    Spyware in electronic devices
    Just if there is no evidence for it, does not mean it is not happening. There is, however, mouning evidence Google is tracking loads of data, such as location, from your phone without you ever noticing it. Furthermore, as many phones have a voice assistant that is always on, that means your phone is always listening to you. Who knows what they are doing with that information. But according to you, when there is no evidence, it is no actually happening. I wish the world was as easy as you pretend it to be, Pepijntje.

    Monsanto and Bayer
    You: ”there is no clear evidence that it poses a risk to humans if used appropriately”. Here you go again, Pepijntje, spreading nonsense. Everyone that is involved in sustainable agriculture knows that the substances that Monsanto and Bayer are to blame for to use in massive amounts are creating ecological and health disasters. I want to help you to remember that the intensification of industrial agriculture destroyed natural connections and living systems, and a thriving food production now requires enormous amounts of money for synthetic chemicals and fertilizers to be able to make something grow on decaying soil and to make crops resistant to continuously evolving bacteria and parasites. The intensification and the escalating chemical use lead to soil contamination: since World War II, an area of 2.3 million square kilometres (almost the size of India) is ruined caused by the mining of soils for nutrients and not replacing them.

    About Hilary Clinton
    Really, Snopes? A media resource that proclaims the ownership of objectivity with so much biased language, it is toe curling.. You are using a fact checker in your attempt to defend this horrible wreck of a woman that is partly to blame for starting the Iraq war and many other dreadful situations. You have to ask yourself: who is actually fact checking the fact checkers? And who promotes and pays them? hmmm. And btw, these e-mails showed the contact with those sick bastards called the Podesta’s. To even be in contact with such horrible people already tells enough about her character.

    Oh Pepijntje, you must be from a family of rich tatas who have no idea what is really going on in the outside world, are in isolation because you are surrounded by the same kind of people who have been perceptually programmed for years by the lying Western propaganda that made you incapable of finding out the facts. It is shocking to learn how people like you are. Anyway, keep it up! Perhaps our left-wing state propaganda will invite you to one of their cringy talk shows so you can have your say about how crazy all those conspiracy theories are! Let’s hope it doesn’t come to that. That is why I advise you to read the following books, just to name a few:
    1984 George Orwell
    Animal Farm
    Understanding Power – Naom Chomsky
    Manufacturing Consent – Naom Chomsky – very important for someone who is perceptually hypnotized.The Shadows of Power: The Council on Foreign Relations – James Perloff – So that you get an idea of how the people in power really work.

    1. Let’s debunk the debunker.

      I’m all for a critical approach to my debunks, but I’m afraid you’re not doing a very good job and seem to drift off-topic on many of the issues you bring up.

      On 9/11

      Everyone without a brain as small as a walnut and with decent gut-feeling knows that 9/11 was an inside job

      I don’t think I have ever met anyone with such a small brain who had an opinion on 9/11, so you are actually just saying that everybody with ‘a decent gut-feeling’ should know that 9/11 was an inside job. Just want to point out that I’m not suggesting that the idea that 9/11 was an inside job is limited to people with limited brain capacity. But they are just wrong. And you too, you make all kind of silly mistakes on this subject.
      If you look carefully at how WTC7 came down, you’ll find out that it doesn’t really have many of the characteristics of controlled demolition. If you want to go into the details, please continue this subject on Did WTC7 on 9/11 really descend in free fall for 2.25 seconds? A closer look at the NIST calculation as it is quite off-topic here.

      “without being intercepted by jet fighters, which can be in the air within the blink of an eye”. In a blink of an eye? Are you serious? Just look up the protocols that were in place at 9/11. It would take at least 15 minutes for the planes to take off and that it would take quite some time to reach the plane. And then what could they have done to prevent UA175 flying in WTC2?
      I’m not denying that people in governments occasionally make up unethical plans that sometimes even get executed, but that doesn’t mean that every far fetched conspiracy is true.

      On abortions
      You actually use an interview with Alex Jones to make your point? That’s hilarious. Of course, you get it all wrong if you think he’s a reliable source. What they are talking about has nothing to do with regular abortion, it’s about the very rare cases where babies have severe defects that are not discovered earlier in pregnancy. It’s then sometimes a very difficult choice whether it is better to end the pregnancy and perform a late abortion or wait till spontaneous delivery after which the child will likely die soon. This has nothing to do with abortion regulation or infanticide, or even euthanasia, it’s about dealing with a medical emergency.

      On spyware
      You missed the point I make: the devices can’t record anything if they are switched off.

      On Monsanto/Bayer
      Again you suffer from ‘Whataboutism’. I’m not talking about “intensification of industrial agriculture” in general, just about the claims on RoundUp.

      On Snopes
      I can imagine why you don’t like Snopes because their fact-checks go against your ‘decent gut-feeling’, but I can’t take such general disapproval seriously. Just discuss the arguments and sources they bring forward to base their judgement on.
      You link to an article that discusses the art the Podestas collect, but a discussion on that would be more appropriate in the comments under the debunk of Part 5.

      1. Dear Pepijn,
        I am not at all drifting off-topic, it seems that you don’t take a holistic approach on debunking certain theories.

        Meanwhile, you as a “skeptic” activist don’t take any part in skepticism. Because if you really would, you would acknowledge that there is research about building 7 that states otherwise.
        The NIST report is just as the 9/11 Commission Report; accumulating lies on lies to fortify the biggest lie of the decade. There is research done by engineering institutes that state that Building 7 could not just fall like it did by only fire. Conveniently, this is almost not reported by media outlets and a reopening of the case will never happen because the government and NIST hold the “absolute truth”. This is a laughing stock.

        This NIST explanation is particularly funny. It is hopeful to see that the majority of the people actually understand the absurdity of their statements. Except you.

        In conclusion, that 9/11 was an inside job is not far fetched at all. Rather, the explanation of the U.S government is a far fetched one. For the actual truth to be publicized and accepted, we will probably have to wait a long time, if ever it is going to happen. You as a ,”skeptical activist”, however, seemingly believe anything the official narrative claims as truth.

        Alex Jones and Post-Birth abortions
        Ofcourse, it fits perfectly to your character, depersonalising Alex Jones. They try to character assassinate him so much while you take him at face value. You probably never even listened to what this guy has to say.
        Concerning the video in question, this bill that the governor tried to push through was a real thing, and fortunately, didn’t pass the committee. He even wanted it to make it able to abort perfectly viable babies without any health problems.

        1. As I already told you in my previous answer, discussing WTC7 is quite off-topic here. For a discussion on the Hulsey report I refer you to Metabunk or if you prefer to discuss it in Dutch to Kloptdatwel

          There is no way that the proposed bill on abortion would make it legal to “abort perfectly viable babies without any health problems”, you’ve fallen for the obvious framing of the pro-life movement of this bill. See The controversy around Virginia’s new abortion bill, explained.

          I deleted the rest of you comment as the topics and arguments were drifting off. I’m not particulary interested in broadening the discussion on this post which contains very specific debunks.

        2. Dear Pepijn,

          How unfortunate to see you’re deleting half of my comment because it is supposedly off-topic. How it looks to me is conveniently getting rid of comments that debunk your story. The other half of my comment goes in exactly on the aspect of Ossebaard that you are aiming to debunk! Let me allow to describe the following subjects one more time:

          Concerning Round-up.
          This IS the intensification of agriculture. By means of chemicals and machines we have industrialized our approaches to agriculture which is ruining our future soil and there are loads of studies that tell us there are legit health concerns relating to Round-up and all other sorts of chemical pesticides and herbicides.

          On Spyware:
          You missed the point I tried to make: even though there is no evidence that they did it, does not mean it is not happening. There is, however, evidence taken from the CIA data leak caused by Wikileaks that shows how a Samsung television can be used to monitor its surrounding, even when it appears to be off. So, yeah, you are probably right that an electronic device cannot record anything while it is not plugged in or when the battery is out, but in standby-mode it is actually very probable that this is possible.
          You on the other hand, will probably wave this evidence away. “Because the party told you to reject all evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command” – 1984 – George Orwell.

        3. You’re clearly not listening and the remainder of the comment I deleted, which you have now reposted in part is clearly beside the debunks. The debunk is about RoundUp and its carcinogenicity, your comment drifts off. On the spyware, I don’t care that equipment can do stuff when switched on or in standby modus, I just debunk Ossebaard’s claim that it can do that stuff when switched off.

          And yeah, I have blocked you now.

  13. I really appreciate the work you are doing. Though I want to believe your debunking of the 101 Dalmatians scene, it appears to me the image on the left is from the original edition of the movie (1961), and the image on the right is from the updated version (1996), which is the version in the YouTube video. Because of this, the images look different in many ways. Even if they were the same, the symbol could have been edited out in the 1996 version. For this to pass muster, the original issue of the film needs to be reviewed.

    1. So what is keeping you from checking out the 1961 edition and tell us about what you found?

    1. This is hilarious! You should hop off the rails sometime and actually do some digging. Using wiki, snopes and Google to look for answers that go against the mainstream narrative? What!? Yeah because the answers you’re looking for are going to be out in the open within platforms owned and controlled by those you wish to expose. There’s nothing like sifting through information that’s laid out for you to confirm your existing beliefs. Nothing like some good ‘ol confirmation bias to expand your thinking. It’s much easier to confirm your beliefs than it is to break away from them. The evidence stacks up. There’s a lot of dots to connect. You’re clearly not prepared to make those connections. Maybe baby steps for you before you act like you have done something spectacular here with your bias opinions. I don’t believe everything I’m told, I research and also no how to get around the channels. Maybe wake up a bit more before publicly posting your weak “findings”.

      1. Maybe it’s just me, but I couldn’t any argument in your comment that debunk our debunks.

  14. I am sorry but satanic ritual abuse is real and there are many victims that testified that high elite was present….Also child trafficking is real and the elite pedophile rings are also real when you look at multiple cases where this was uncovered worldwide. Sorry, there are too many eye witnesses and testimonies worldwide that ressemble each other to be a weird conspiracy Theory. Because if so, the witnesses would be connected and orchestrated but they are not…
    I even personally know such a victim with DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder) due to severe Trauma, torture und sexual abuse in her Family.

    1. There are network of pedophiles, but their activities don’t involve satanist rituals, as far as I know. And there are high place people who abuse children. Although there are many stories about satanic ritual abuse, there have not been any convincing cases of elite pedophile rings that are involved with such evil. In most of these cases alleged memories of victims were ‘refound’ with the help of dubious therapies, and mass hysteria sometimes played a role.

    2. yeah I agree. because even if all of the stuff in part 1 is false concerning nonsexual content, part 4 & 5 are just sections I can’t discredit. there are so many other people who bring forward so much evidence. so even I you dont wanna expose the government for immigrants or money or even less taxes then just do it for the kids. because no matter where you go in nature, offspring is sacred and humans are no exception. the children have to stay untouched, they just have to.

    3. Just to be clear, these so called “satanic” groups, are predominantly led by Christian folks, and ritualistic abuse in Christianity is widely documented, like.. . “exorcism” for example; when a child has behavioral problems due to a variety of mental and developmental disorders.

      And ironically; Satanic rules and regulations itself already state that harming a child is big no-no, similar to unconsensual acts of intimacy.

      Something we all know and acknowledge that is a less defined boundary within Christian faith. (especially when you consider that the Bible has a load of both contextual and incontextual lines and/or quotes that directly involve incest/rape/slavery/murder/more, that fit the whole story like a glove)

      And yes, epstein, maxwell and Donald trump, have all been pictured together for years, and trump is known to make a lot of incestuous comments, so if /someone/ was to be part of this “8chan scripted story” about “the elite” it literally would involve trump.

  15. Firstly, you should proofread your work before posting it for the public to read. Secondly, the only thing that can be debunked here is all your empty “debunking explanations” that are mostly based on your brainwashed opinion, not facts, Wikipedia which is not a real or credible source, and Snopes which is by no means a “Fact Checker,” but just another tool to “back up” mainstream propaganda and discredit real news and information. The documentary is on point on exposing the horrific reality, and she backs it up with evidence. It’s evident that you are just another unethical blogger, which is vastly common nowadays. I hope you find your way to the TRUTH soon and stop spreading lies that only further the cabals satanic agenda and disgusting, murderous, and pedo behavior that will soon be exposed for the entire world to see. Sit tight and enjoy the show! Good will prevail over evil. WWG1WWA

    1. Your “she backs it up with evidence.” really made me laugh. I challenge you to give a specific example of one of Ossebaard’s claims that we debunk here, that is actually backed up with evidence. Just one example, that shouldn’t be a problem if you’re so certain about it.

    2. You want evidence but you believe anything put in front of your face?!?!?! The world doesn’t work how it’s described by Q or its followers. They are literally the most unintelligent, simplistic people on the planet. Get a clue.

  16. Dear Pepijn,

    Thank you for all you hard work and passion for the truth. I would like to see a dialogue
    between you and this lady for the honest purpose of mutually advancing in respectable knowledge.

    1. I suggest that you watch the interview with Ossebaard of which I’ve translated a fragment and embedded at the end of my article about her COVID-19 series. I don’t think a dialogue, in which there should be room for critical questions in my opinion, is possible with her.

  17. Some of it is true. Truth mixed in the lies. What I want to know is where she got the quote from Mark Zukerberg. Mel Gibson quote you can find some heresay he said it the Zuckerberg one tho. You can’t quote something like that without a source. The quotes were the red flag for me. At the same time why would she leave a whole like that? Surely she can’t be that careless. Is she leave a trail to follow? Then it raises the question is she that clever?

    1. I am not quite sure which quotes you mean, I don’t they were used in this part. As for the quote of Mel Gibson, maybe you mean the long one at the end of Part 4. That one is fake for sure, it came from fake news website yournewswire(dot)com.

  18. sir, you are a liar!

    I have picked out 2 credible articles here but there are so many more!

    this article is about GPS on 24/7 but you are either an idiot or a fool, if you think there arent any backdoors in all electronic devices. what do you think The Internet of Things is for? Your convenience? Dumbass.

    Your debunking can easily be debunked if any of the mindless automatons reading this crap are willing to give there head a shake and stop using it as more than just a hat rack!

    1. Sir, you need to improve your reading skills!

      It looks like you missed this paragraph in the first article you link to:

      The drafter of the legislation, D66 MP Pia Dijkstra, said she made a number of changes in a bid to ease its passage through the lower house. As part of the changes, authorities must consult with the deceased’s relatives. The family will also have the final say over whether the procedure goes ahead, according to Dijkstra.

      Final say for the relatives, you see?

      And the second article is about switching off your smartphone’s location, not about switching the device off completely.

  19. what a load of brainless rubbish , you refer to reports all over the place and articles. do you really think the commissioners report on 911 will state the obvious no i dont think so
    To think the cars were swept up by a bulldozer in the fires is just an opinion not scientific fact like she points out and that public are very aware of.
    Have a look at the hole supposedly made by a plane with a wingspan far larger than the hole, there is also scientific evidence on a video showing the actual missile to which the hole would be a far better example of at the pentagon. just some of the huge holes in your efforts to disrepute the theories . Not untypical of someone who supports a democratic side though their time will come its completely disgusting what cover ups are going on in this world and your article just poits to your blatant ignorance as well

    1. I advise you to look up some info that argues against the stuff you read on conspiracy websites. Metabunk is a great site, Popular Mechanics is a decent start for the 9/11 stuff.

  20. I just made a donation, your work is immensely valuable in these times of unlimited fake news, such as Ossebaard. Thank you!

      1. Would you not agree that the burden to prove the truth is far more difficult than it is to debunk said truth ? That nay-sayers only need to criticize, and their followers declare victory?

        Hilary is the one of the most vile people you could ever meet. In the Benghazi incident, she ignored the desperate pleas for air support that would have saved the lives of a few dozen special forces and civilian personnel who were serving their country. As a sworn Official in the West Wing , she had a duty to protect the US citizens who died that day, but then had the gall to deny giving the order for air support to stand down, essentially sentencing them to die horrific deaths. Then she lied under oath to protect her co-conspirator.

        The missing email. Did she not say oops ? or was that the water running in the kitchen sink as she washed her hands clean of the evidence? My friend, Janet Ossebaard makes some unbelievable statements, but like a good teacher, she points you in the direction where you can find the truth for yourself, but doesn’t tell you what you should believe. On the other hand you refute her statements without giving her a chance to argue back. In my books, that’s called “taking a cheap shot”

        1. Would you not agree that the burden to prove the truth is far more difficult than it is to debunk said truth ? That nay-sayers only need to criticize, and their followers declare victory?

          Strong accusations need strong evidence. You can’t just make things up, tell it is the truth, and say that you don’t need to have proof. Then you enter the realm of religion, it doesn’t mix up very well with reality when making factual claims.

          It could be very well that Hillary is not a very nice person, so what? And what has the Benghazi incident, which you horribly misrepresent here, has to do with the allegations Ossebaard makes in her direction?

          On the other hand you refute her statements without giving her a chance to argue back.

          The opposite is true. I had contact with Ossebaard via Twitter. She stated that I had “failed miserably” in this debunk, but when challenged three times to provide specific examples, she failed to provide even one. Just check out this thread:

          After another exchange (in Dutch) she was not awaiting my answer and simply blocked me.

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